-- Posted by Paulo on 7:56 pm on Oct. 13, 2002
could sum1 please explain these bar fines for me i keep hearing about ,nice
-- Posted by nokna on 8:22 pm on Oct. 13, 2002
the bar fine is payable when you wish to take the girl out of the bar.
the girls are there to bring custom to the bar and to get you to part with your
money in the way of drinks,both for you and them.
when they leave the bar and go with you,they are no longer earning money for the
bar and therefore the bar fine is a sort of compensation to the bar.
fines are generally 200 bt in bar beer and 500 bt in go-go.
but there are ways go getting the girl for no bar fine.
-- Posted by bandit on 8:41 pm on Oct. 13, 2002
I am happy that Nokna did a post on this subject, he is the the most experienced
of all bros in this forum, we all look up to him. Nothing much to add off course
on what he says.
In LOS you will have to pay the bar in case the BG is working there, later of
course the BG herself, as well. This differs from some countries as for example
the Phils. where the BG's pay is included in the barfine.
While surfing on the genuine mainpage of this forum you will find most answers
to your questions. I hope the two links will give you an idea about the pricing
We are all happy to make posts in this forum. I know this particular one would
have been reserved to the master, DK himself, but I could not resist...
-- Posted by darknight on 11:09 pm on Oct. 13, 2002
Here is the other URL :
-- Posted by JIMMY D on 11:54 pm on Oct. 13, 2002
You say nokna is the most experienced in this forum?
He visits the country maybe a couple of weeks a year?
Yea thats real experience.
Look out for posts by Thaiprivateye,chataujade or mr joe,long time expats are
the ones to trust.
-- Posted by chateaujade on 1:23 am on Oct. 14, 2002
Of course, there are also places where the girl has no formal relationship
with the establishment, hence no bar fine is involved: examples such as Beer Bar
Soi 7, or Thermae, or Grace, or Nana coffee shops. Caution: wrong way to save
a few hundred baht. Although each of these places have their admirers.
And there are places where both the "bar fine" and the girl's fee are built in
up front, such as Annie's MP if you take the girl out.
And there are freelancers, streeywalkers, girls hanging around outside Lumpini
Park, etc etc etc, no bar fines. Caveat emptor.
It sometimes is true that one can evade a barfine by waiting till closing time,
however, this is generally considered declasse' by the girls, a sign of a cheap
charlie, and is certainly a good way to piss off a mamasan if you are spotted,
and you ought to be making the mamasans your bosom buddies, as this will make
your life a lot easier. Schmooze thye mamasans, buy them drinks, they can and
will point you at the girls who will handle special requests, and steer you away
from troublesome girls (there are such), if they like you. Mamasans should not
be seen as adversaries, or treated with disrespect.
-- Posted by nokna on 5:15 am on Oct. 14, 2002
i never class myself as the experienced one.
in one of my first posts i think i said this.
i have no problem with JIMMY D's post about me.
after all he was correct,many more qualified people out there then me.
we can only post our knowledge.
while i may only have been to thailand 5 times,i picked up the scene whilst on
my 2nd trip and learnt everyday.
any info which helps a newbie is good info if it helps them.
anyway paulo,hope you understand the routine now.
-- Posted by bandit on 10:30 am on Oct. 14, 2002
I got your point - no worries - and it is as you say, still I wish to add this.
When I stated experienced, I thought of the posts and did not mean to abuse anybody.
I am happy that Nokna is around, he is of great value to this forum as are the
other bros around. He cares a lot and for my as an NB in this forum he is easy
to speak to.
-- Posted by pinga on 10:55 am on Oct. 14, 2002
Coming back to main topic....
I may add that sometimes many of the waitresses also can go out at the B-bars
and GG-bars. The bf for them is slightly more expensive....let say...if the bf
is B/.500 for the dancers, a waitress can go out with you for B/.600. The fees
for an ST/LT depends upon a personal agreement....Actually, they ask for the same
fee....nothing special. Just be careful and take one with good attitude....
and yep! as NOKNA said the bf is the amount of money that the Bar gets as compensation
when a TG is out with a customer....and not the price for sex.
So many cuties try to finish with the customer very quick as they want to run
back to the GG-bar for a very possible next bang....that's why it is adviseable
to take them around 23:00....after your ST there is little choice for them to
go back to the bar as this will be closed. However, if the TG really needs money,
likes you or the place you stay and the attitude you had, she can offer you a
LT at no cost or maybe at a reasonable price. Few of these B-girls go for freelancing
afterwards....Ah!! and yes, once back to the GG-bar, these cuties will let the
bar get another bf if any customer is interesting in a ST/LT.....If a TG is bf
and goes back to the bar she is not required to dance anymore. However, they will
hang around full dressed up or sexy looking in the prowl of another customer.....
-- Posted by sharkindude on 2:11 am on Oct. 15, 2002
I am a newbie so please forgive my ignorance when it comes to Bangkok.
I understand that I will have to pay a bar fine of 500 or 600bt to take a girl
out of the bar. How much on top should I be looking at for short and long time
-- Posted by nokna on 5:14 am on Oct. 15, 2002
that's a more difficult.
different girls will ask for different rates.
i know i pay too much,but in general whilst in phuet i will pay 500 S/T-1000 L/T
for a bar beer girl and double for go-go girl.
some will ask for a lot more,don't pay anymore then this.
just remember there are many girls to choose from and if you feel the price is
too much,then move on.
-- Posted by pinga on 1:32 pm on Oct. 15, 2002
Yeah, this is difficult to answer....the range is quite big. Several brothers
pay and tip on different amounts for their cuties. Basicaly, you have to agree
with your TG BEFOREHANDS on the price for the "services".
I think it's better to arrange the details of the service/price with the mamasan/papasan
beforehands. Tell him/her what you require the TG to do e.g. oral, HJ, BBBJ, anal,
etc. and he/she will translate the requirement to the TG. Once the TG agrees,
you can "negotiate" the price, if required, fix the details, pay your bills and
go for your bang.
Hmmmm At free-lancing bars you may find ST for B/.500 and LT for 1-2.5K (all prices
are negotiable). At the GG-bars 1-1,5K ST seems to be a norm. LT varies from 2-3K.
Again, all prices are negotiable. For instance, I got a regular at RAWHIDE (Soi
Cowboy). She always call me to go home for 1K LT....I tip her B/.500 for "taxi"
sometimes....Some others are freebies, but that's another story....
At MPs everything is fixed. Pay up-front and bang. A "take away" menue at these
MPs will be a costly approach....ENJOY!!!!